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- Date: Tue, 24 May 94 08:08:53 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #567
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 24 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 567
-
- Today's Topics:
- "for ID"
- * SpaceNews 23-May-94 *
- 150 Years (2 msgs)
- A4x (Oman) QSL Manager
- A novice needs some help!
- Icom IC-215 Manual Needed
- LOOKING FOR >> Allied Radio AX-190 DOCUMENTATION!!!
- Luck Hurder ... gone:( Why?
- Radio Shack DSP
- Scurvy knaves at ARRL (2 msgs)
- Test session stories
- Test session weirdos
-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 1994 09:28:33 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!pegasus.cc.ucf.edu!pegasus.cc.ucf.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: "for ID"
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- On 22 May 1994 18:50:13 GMT Steven J. King
- wrote the following in rec.radio.amateur.misc:
-
- > For fun -- but only once in a while so I don't become TOO annoying --
- > I will rebell against the "for I.D." and say "for the FCC". hihi
- > ..er.. **** ** **** ** ..er.. haha <whew>
-
- On voice you are supposed to say "semicolon minus-sign
- close-parenthesis" to denote that you made a funny ;-)
-
- John -=- kr4ah.
-
- Disclaimer: I am not responsible for the actions of
- any Alpha-Hotels other than myself.
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 94 13:55:09 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: * SpaceNews 23-May-94 *
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi folks.
-
- Sorry if this is a dupe, but I've been having a lot of trouble with mail
- lately.
-
- 73, de John, KD2BD
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- SB NEWS @ AMSAT $SPC0523
- * SpaceNews 23-May-94 *
-
-
- BID: $SPC0523
-
-
- =========
- SpaceNews
- =========
-
-
- MONDAY MAY 23, 1994
-
-
- SpaceNews originates at KD2BD in Wall Township, New Jersey, USA. It is
- published every week and is made available for unlimited distribution.
-
-
- * LUSAT-1 CRASH RECOVERY UNDERWAY *
- ===================================
- On 16-May-94 while LU1JBR and other stations were operating LUSAT-1
- (LO-19), the satellite's downlink vanished, a result of an on-board
- computer crash. By 17-May-94, LUSAT-1 command station (operated by
- Norberto Pennini, LU8DYF), successfully reset the satellite.
-
- Norberto will start a series of deep tests and studies in order to find
- the origin of the crash. Reloading of operating software will follow the
- study. Please note that the satellite will not be operational for regular
- users for the next 7 to 30 day period.
-
- LUSAT-OSCAR-19 controllers would like to thank LU8DYF and other stations
- who, in a way or another, collaborated and made this operation a success,
- including: LU6DYD, LU7AKC, LU7DSU, LU8ENU, LU4AGC, LU1EXC, LU2BDT, LW1EEO
- and LU3AGY.
-
- [Info via Eduardo Sweet, LU7AKC]
-
-
- * AMSAT CALL FOR PAPERS *
- =========================
- Share your experience with the amaeur satellite community at the 1994
- AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and Space Symposium scheduled for 07-Oct-94
- through 09-Oct-94 in Orlando, Florida. Come help celebrate AMSAT's 25 year
- presence in Space. Your help is needed to make this meeting a success.
-
- Papers for this meeting are sought. Editing, formatting, graphics and even
- typing can be provided if required. Prepare a paper and advance your
- reputation among others involved in the Amateur Satellite program! Even if
- you cannot attend the meeting, consider a paper for publication.
-
- Topics for all amateur satellite disciplines are sought. Author and Title
- requested ASAP. Compose a short abstract by July 1. Final drafts are
- requested on or about August 26.
-
- Direct inputs and inquiries to:
- Steve Park - WB9OEP
- 12122 99th Ave. N.
- Seminole, FL 34642
- Phone: (813) 391-7515
- Internet: SKPA@QMGATE.ECI-ESYST.COM
- Amateur Packet Radio: WB9OEP @ W4DPH#TPA.FL.EL87OW
-
- Join us in Orlando, Florida for the fun and festivities!
-
- [Info via Steve Park, WB9OEP]
-
-
- * CLEMENTINE FAILURE *
- ======================
- After successfully completing a mission using advanced ballistic missile
- defense technologies to map the entire surface of the moon, the Ballistic
- Missile Defense Organization's Clementine satellite suffered an on-board
- malfunction at 9:39 AM EST on 07-May-94. The likely result of this
- malfunction will be to prevent Clementine from performing the planned close
- fly by of the near-Earth asteroid Geographos in August 1994, and for the
- satellite to point its cameras and sensors.
-
- Preliminary analysis has traced the cause of the malfunction to the
- on-board computer which controls most of the satellite's systems including
- the attitude control thrusters. The computer activated several thrusters
- during a 20 minute telemetry interrupt with the ground station, thus
- depleting all the fuel in the Attitude Control System (ACS) tanks. It has
- not been determined as yet whether the fault was in the computer software
- or in the computer's electronic chips. The primary processor on the
- computer is a radiation hardened Military Standard 1750A computer, which is
- not experimental technology.
-
- Clementine's mission control center in Alexandria, VA. is continuously
- monitoring the satellite. It has been determined that all instruments and
- systems are continuing to function well with the exception of the ACS.
-
- Although it may be difficult to Clementine to make the close fly by of the
- asteroid, the satellite will continue to perform its intended military
- mission to test 23 advanced technologies. The Clementine engineering team
- is examining several mission options which would continue to yield useful
- data. Since January 25, 1994, Clementine's cameras have recorded over 1.5
- million images including the topographical surface of the moon. Analyzing
- this data, including results of the search for the existence of ice on the
- lunar surface, will continue to occupy scientists for many years.
-
- The Clementine project is managed by BMDO, built by the Naval Research
- Laboratory, and its instruments constructed by industry and the Lawrence
- Livermore Laboratory. It has been a landmark project since it demonstrates
- that small, highly capable satellites can be built and launched for under
- $100 million and in less than two years, using advanced miniaturized
- technology and a streamlined management approach.
-
- [Info via Richard H. Buenneke Jr.]
-
-
- * DISCOVERY OF ASTEROID MOON *
- ==============================
- NASA's space probe Galileo has discovered what is probably the first
- known moon of an asteroid. Since Galileo passed the asteroid, Ida, on
- August 28, 1993, the probe has continued to send back images and data from
- the near infrared mapping spectrometer. Because of the great distance at
- which the probe is from Earth, downloading this data will continue for
- months to come.
-
- The Galileo Porject Scientist, announced on March 3, 1994, the discovery
- of a "blip" consisiting of more than a few pixels visible in data from both
- the solid-state imaging system and the spectrometer.
-
- Based on simultaneous observation, a natural moon may be in orbit around
- Ida. If so, this would be the first satellite of an asteroid to be
- discovered.
-
- More information will be forth coming soon from NASA, along with the first
- images of this possibly new moon orbiting Ida.
-
- [Info via Dave, N9JUW]
-
-
- * ECLIPSE IMAGE AVAILABLE VIA FTP *
- ===================================
- A collection of images taken of the 10-May-94 annular solar eclipse have
- been assembled into a single file and is available via anonymous FTP at:
- ftp.uleth.ca (IP # 142.66.3.29). The image is called "eclipse.gif"
- and is located in the "pub/solar/Images" directory at this site. The
- frame contains 24 high-quality images taken by the Big Bear Solar
- Observatory. All but three are full-disk hydrogen-alpha and Ca II K
- images, giving excellent views of existing features visible on the Sun
- (regions of enhanced plage, filaments, etc). The other three images are
- high-resolution close-up images of the Sun showing craters and mountain
- ranges against the background of the solar surface. "eclipse.gif" is a
- large 1500 x 1297 x 256 image that will make good use of large
- high-resolution monitors.
-
- The folks at the BBSO did a great job capturing these images, and deserve a
- nice pat on the back for covering the event so well.
-
- "eclipse.gif" is in a semi-permanent state. That is, it will not be removed
- from the FTP disk for a few months.
-
- [Info via Cary Oler]
-
-
- * RS-10 NEWS *
- ==============
- VE3CIQ in Canada reports that RS-10 is working quite well in Mode A. In
- one Atlantic pass, he made contact with FG5GI from Guateloupe Island,
- ON2ATB from Belgium, and N1MCT from Maine, USA using 25 watts of transmitter
- power. VE3CIQ reports he can hear himself with only 5 watts.
-
- [Info via VE3CIQ]
-
-
- * SpaceNews IN SPANISH *
- ========================
- Pedro Jose, EA4ADD in Spain is translating SpaceNews issues into the
- Spanish language and circulating the translated issues throughout the
- LATNET (Latin America) and the EA (Spanish) packet radio networks.
-
- My thanks to EA4ADD for taking the time to translate SpaceNews into Spanish.
-
-
- * THANKS! *
- ===========
- Thanks to all those who sent messages of appreciation to SpaceNews,
- especially:
-
- ON1AOT VK2XCI VE3CIQ EA4ADD N6UVY WB9OEP W0XK
-
-
- * FEEDBACK/INPUT WELCOMED *
- ===========================
- Mail to SpaceNews should be directed to the editor (John, KD2BD) via any
- of the following paths:
-
- FAX : 1-908-747-7107
- PACKET : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
- INTERNET : kd2bd@ka2qhd.de.com -or- kd2bd@amsat.org
-
- MAIL : John A. Magliacane, KD2BD
- Department of Engineering and Technology
- Advanced Technology Center
- Brookdale Community College
- Lincroft, New Jersey 07738
- U.S.A.
-
-
- <<=- SpaceNews: The first amateur newsletter read in space! -=>>
-
- /EX
-
- --
- John A. Magliacane, KD2BD * /\/\ * Voice : 1-908-224-2948
- Advanced Technology Center |/\/\/\| Packet : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
- Brookdale Community College |\/\/\/| Internet: kd2bd@ka2qhd.de.com
- Lincroft, NJ 07738 * \/\/ * Morse : -.- -.. ..--- -... -..
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 07:09:59 EDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!nic.umass.edu!noc.near.net!saturn.caps.maine.edu!maine.maine.edu!wjs@@
- Subject: 150 Years
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Oops. Date in last posting should of course be MAY 24, 1844, not March 24.
- Service messages
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 07:01:03 EDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!nic.umass.edu!noc.near.net!saturn.caps.maine.edu!maine.maine.edu!wjs@network.ucsd.
- Subject: 150 Years
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Today's the day it all began. One hundred fifty years ago today, March 24,
- 1844 Samuel F.B. Morse sat at a table in the US Capitol building in Washington
- and sent the first public telegraph message to his assistant, Alfred Vail, in
- Baltimore. Morse's first message -- What hath God wrought -- opened the age
- of electronic communications.
-
-
- 73, Mr. Morse, and tnx
-
- -K1AG
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 00:56:46 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!iat.holonet.net!vectorbd!jpll@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: A4x (Oman) QSL Manager
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Spread the word that KD2OM is *NOT* the QSL manager for A47RS or any
- other Oman station. He is mistakely listed as such in lists.
-
- -Jim
-
- --
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- -Jim Lill- Vector Board BBS
- jpll@vectorbd.com 716-544-1863/2645
- wa2zkd@wb2psi.#wny.ny.usa.na GEnie: ZKD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 19 May 94 14:08:06 GMT
- From: uchinews!ncar!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@rsch.wisc.edu
- Subject: A novice needs some help!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Mar23.235408.10229@umr.edu>, brownde@ee.umr.edu
- (David Brown) writes:
-
- To use Ham radio, you need a license from the FCC. For information
- contact
- The American Radio Relay League
- 225 Main St.
- Newington, Ct. 06111
-
- They have free info on how to become a ham.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 1994 12:32:05 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!lerc.nasa.gov!grybicki.lerc.nasa.gov!seryb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Icom IC-215 Manual Needed
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am looking for a manual and schematic for the ICOM IC-215 2m xtal
- controlled 2M FM rig. I will pay copying and mailing expenses. I might
- even buy an old decrepit IC-215 with manual if the price was right. Thank
- You
-
- George Rybicki
- KE8YX
- 12434 Janette Ave.
- Strongsville, OH 44136
- 216-433-8473 (days)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 1994 09:19:02 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: LOOKING FOR >> Allied Radio AX-190 DOCUMENTATION!!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <n9rzc-200594010334@ruger-13.slip.uiuc.edu>,
- n9rzc@uiuc.edu (Allen Hall) writes:
-
-
-
- >I recently got this boat-anchor of a smithsonian piece of Allied
- radio
- >ax-190 receiver, and I need to do some internal fixing on the thing.
- I
- >would stand a much better chance if I could find the documentation
- for this
- >thing. (I'd ask allied if they had extras if they were still
- around! :) I
- >just know one of you guys out there with a club like the one I'm in
- has one
- >of these things sitting in the back corner, and probably have the
- docs for
- >it. I dunno, e-mail and we'll figure it all out.
-
- Radio Shack should be able to provide you with a copy of the service
- manual. Go to the local store and order it through their special
- parts ordering facility. Ft. Worth always keeps these on file and
- will make a copy for you (their is surely a charge). If the store
- won't help, call Tandy direct in Ft. Worth.
-
- de WB8NUT
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 1994 07:51:55 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!news.sprintlink.net!rtp.vnet.net!char2.vnet.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Luck Hurder ... gone:( Why?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Bob Levine (levine@mc.com) wrote:
- : In article 9021@cs.brown.edu,
- md@maxcy2.maxcy.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
- : -->YVES ALBERT <yves1@delphi.com> writes:
- : -->-- Michael P. Deignan
- : -->-- Amalgamated Baby Seal Poachers Union, Local 101
- : -->-- "Get 'The Club'... Endorsed by Baby Seal poachers everywhere..."
-
- : Maybe I don't agree with everything they do, but I certainly
- To change things you can do it from the inside or the
- outside - inside works better.
- : feel that they provide a great service to all amateurs, not
- : just their members.
-
- : Stop whining and if you don't want any of the league's
- : benefits than don't join,
- If you would like to CHANGE their views - get in
- participate, get elected! then VOTE
- : don't participate in DXCC or WAS,
- : don't QSL by the bureau, don't ask for legal assistance,
- : don't ask for local technical assistance, don't read QST,
- : don't attend an ARRL VE Session, don't ask for international
- : licensing information.
- : ------------------------------------------------------------
- : Bob Levine KD1GG 7J1AIS VK2GYN formerly KA1JFP
- : levine@mc.com <--Internet email Phone(508) 256-1300 x247
- : kd1gg@wa1phy.ma <--Packet Mail FAX(508) 256-3599
- : ------------------------------------------------------------
- Dave, N9UNR
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 94 13:58:30 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Radio Shack DSP
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >Clay Jackson - N7QNM
-
- >Has anyone had any experiences with the new RS DSP unit? For $79.95,
- >it seems pretty reasonable, if it works.
-
- >Thanks in advance!
-
- Clay,
- Yeah, I just got one and it works great! I really can't compare
- it to any of the others, but I'm thrilled with it. Just the ticket for
- my mobile use. I tried it at home on a xcvr that does not have a CW
- filter and was really impressed with how well it worked for the price.
- If your intention is mostly to use it on SSB you will likely not be quite
- as impressed however. It does a nice job getting rid of the hetrodynes,
- etc, but otherwise it just doesn't do much for that service. That's not
- to put it down, 'cause none of them do much more than that actually for
- SSB. But since I do a lot of mobile CW I'm lovin' the little thing!
-
- bcnu
- Paul
-
- ar..
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 1994 13:56:39 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Scurvy knaves at ARRL
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2rqudj$t91@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu
- (Derek Wills) wrote:
-
- > Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) fumes:
- >
- >
- > >Hey.. don't forget the magazine publishers too! I wonder if the ARRL is
- > >among them? Lets see, if we can sell x number of new subscriptions, that
- > >means that x number of people stay employed and get annual increases.
- >
- > Each new subscription means one more person stays employed? I think
- > you mean "y number of people", although the algebra is tough to solve
- > without another equation somewhere.
- >
- > The ARRL actually gives people raises? I'm shocked! What a terrible
- > waste of money - how can they hope to stay in business with an attitude
- > like that? What a bunch of losers. I'm tempted to resign - do you
- > realize that ARRL membership costs around 8 cents per day? Daylight
- > robbery!
-
- For what the ARRL has done lately, 8 cents a day is too much. As for what
- variable I used... x is as good as y in this case. I should have said 'n'
- number of people.... but that's life.
-
-
- --
- == Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
- == Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu, Tel. (401) 863-1880 Fax. (401) 863-2269
- == The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 1994 14:00:49 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Scurvy knaves at ARRL
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <ddtodd.112.000E3034@ucdavis.edu>, ddtodd@ucdavis.edu (Daniel D.
- Todd) wrote:
-
- > In article <2rqudj$t91@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) writes:
- > >From: oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills)
- > >Subject: Scurvy knaves at ARRL
- > >Date: 23 May 1994 18:58:59 GMT
- >
- > >Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) fumes:
- >
- >
- > >>Hey.. don't forget the magazine publishers too! I wonder if the ARRL is
- > >>among them? Lets see, if we can sell x number of new subscriptions, that
- > >>means that x number of people stay employed and get annual increases.
- >
- > >Each new subscription means one more person stays employed? I think
- > >you mean "y number of people", although the algebra is tough to solve
- > >without another equation somewhere.
- > How about an CFV on a new newsgroup? brown.slam.arrl.and no-code If the
- > distribution was limited to brown.edu the rest of us could get along with our
- > lives. I'll probably get the same response from Tony the last time I posted
- > about him.... fuck off and go away. Sorry for those with sensitive eyes,
- > but that's what the boy said.
-
- No it doesn't mean that, but it means that the ARRL can further place
- itself into matters that it has no business being in. And yes, there are
- individuals at HQ who derive a direct benefit from this. As for slamming
- no-codes, that's not what any of us have been saying. It's the no-clues
- that bother us. Why not start a new ucdavis.whining.no-clue.people group?
- You know, this almost makes me want to resume a UUCP connection again.
-
- Tony
- --
- == Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
- == Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu, Tel. (401) 863-1880 Fax. (401) 863-2269
- == The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 12:46:14 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov!bodoh@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Test session stories
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994May23.202758.2452@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger) writes:
- |>
- |> I guess it takes all kinds. Keeps things interesting, for sure.
- |>
- |> Anyone else have any interesting VE stories to add?
- |>
- |> 73... Mark AA7TA
-
- When I took my test, a guy came in with his wife who was testing. He said
- he had thought about testing for his extra code but said he wasn't ready
- yet. He had previously passed the extra theory but had failed the code test
- repeatedly. Pretty soon everyone in the room was coaxing him to go for it.
-
- Needless to say, he passed and was very surprised as he thought it would be
- years before he would be an extra. I thought this was a good example of the
- brotherhood/sisterhood/personhood of ham radio...
-
-
- --
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- + Tom Bodoh - Section Manager, Systems Engineering and Management, Hughes STX +
- + USGS/EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD, USA 57198 (605) 594-6830 +
- + Internet; bodoh@dgg.cr.usgs.gov (152.61.192.66) Amateur radio call; N0YGT +
- + "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!" EL&P +
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 94 13:30:59 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Test session weirdos
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >without a signature and the guy got all steamed about his rights, etc etc.
- >He got real belligerent and disruptive so we asked him to leave. He did
- >(luckily) but not before a lot of very loud foul language and threats to
- >sue us all etc etc. Anyone else ever have something like that happen in a
- >test session?
-
- gotta wonder about these guys (i think we've had 2 or 3 over 10 years). A few
- years ago we were doing an exam at the local hamfest and someone came up and I
- started going over the application and asking for identification and such and
- they wouldn't produce any. so we wouldn't let them take the test (Sorry, we
- have to have an idea that you are who you say you are.) Candidate goes away
- and comes back with a bunch of allies who get all worked up over this and how
- they don't do this at their sessions and yada yada. Still the answer is no.
- They go grab the hamfest guys and now the hamfest guys (who only had tech
- licenses at the time) start chiming in. Fortunately about this time some of
- the ARRL folks happened by and listened in & joined in our side of the
- argument, pulled the hamfest guys aside to explain to them how the system
- works for examinations and such.
-
- after the hamfest, we start getting letters from the backers of the
- unidentifiable person with all sorts of interesting enclosures. a lot in the
- ALL CAPS!!!! and crayon school of letter writing. quotes from the
- "amateur's code". I answer with copies of the requirements from the rules.
-
- Eventually it all settled down.
-
- Another one was a guy that would come to the tests, radio classes etc. and
- never take the exams. In classes, he'd generally try to be a pain in the neck
- of sorts...like you can't know 2 x 2 = 4 because of the heisenberg uncertainty
- principle etc. sigh. One thing that did come out was the guy had no problem
- copying code. I started carrying around a novice exam kit with me just so when
- ever this guy showed up, i'd be able to stick an exam under his nose.
-
- He finally took the exams. missed extra by a few questions. got his novice
- license. the kicker is he would not supply the VEC with a copy of the license
- to get his advanced paperwork cleared, nor did he ever come back to take the
- extra written again. the guy's an SK now, but we did wonder what the problem
- was (he wouldn't talk about it) -- we'd wonder about things like did he have a
- license pulled and was afraid the FCC would find out? or was he on the lamb
- from the police in some state or something and afraid that by doing something
- like getting a radio license, he'd be raising his visibility? We never found
- out for sure - had to chalk it up to the guy just being "strange" -- although
- we did determine that his mailing address didn't match up with where he really
- lived....
-
- I suppose the driver's license offices see a lot of this behavior as well..
-
- bill wb9ivr
- rockwell avionics/collins
-
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- Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 14:14:28 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jfh@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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- References <1994May11.131758.9021@cs.brown.edu>, <2qr774$221@jericho.mc.com>, <2rspor$fp1@char2.vnet.net>
- Subject : Re: Luck Hurder ... gone:( Why?
-
- exe02594@char2.vnet.net (exe02594) wrote:
-
- > To change things you can do it from the inside or the
- >outside - inside works better.
-
- Using both tactics together often works better than either alone. It's
- usually called "good cop/bad cop".
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